Legislature(2005 - 2006)

06/02/2006 05:14 PM House FIN


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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                        June 2, 2006                                                                                            
                         5:14 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer called the House Finance Committee meeting to                                                                    
order at 5:14:17 PM.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Chenault, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Stoltze, Vice-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Jim Holm                                                                                                         
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Mike Kelly                                                                                                       
Representative Beth Kerttula                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
Representative Bruce Weyhrauch                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Paul  Seaton; Representative  Norm  Rokeberg;                                                                   
Representative David  Guttenberg; Dan Dickinson,  Consultant,                                                                   
Tax   Division,  Department   of   Revenue;  Robynn   Wilson,                                                                   
Director,  Division of  Tax,  Department  of Revenue;  Robert                                                                   
Mintz, Assistant Attorney General, Department of Law                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There were no teleconference testifiers.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 2001 (FIN)                                                                                                                 
          "An Act  relating to the production tax  on oil and                                                                   
          gas   and  to  conservation   surcharges   on  oil;                                                                   
          relating   to  criminal  penalties   for  violating                                                                   
          conditions   governing   access  to   and  use   of                                                                   
          confidential    information    relating   to    the                                                                   
          production  tax; amending  the definition  of 'gas'                                                                   
          as that  definition applies in the  Alaska Stranded                                                                   
          Gas Development Act;  making conforming amendments;                                                                   
          and providing for an effective date."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          HCS CSSB  2001 (FIN) was REPORTED out  of Committee                                                                   
          with  a "do  pass" recommendation  and  with a  new                                                                   
          fiscal impact note by the Department of Revenue                                                                       
          and previously published zero fiscal note: #1 REV.                                                                    
CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 2001(FIN)                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act  relating to the  production tax on oil  and gas                                                                   
     and  to  conservation  surcharges  on oil;  relating  to                                                                   
     criminal  penalties for  violating conditions  governing                                                                   
     access to  and use of confidential  information relating                                                                   
     to the production tax; amending  the definition of 'gas'                                                                   
     as that  definition applies  in the Alaska  Stranded Gas                                                                   
     Development  Act;  making   conforming  amendments;  and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
5:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment 6. Representative                                                                   
Hawker OBJECTED.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT MINTZ, ASSISTANT ATTORNEY  GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF LAW,                                                                   
explained Amendment  6, which creates special  provisions for                                                                   
the tax  rate on  oil and  gas produced  south of the  Brooks                                                                   
Range and outside of the Cook Inlet basin.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:17:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mintz He  explained that  the amendment  also amends  AS                                                                   
33.55.170 on  page 28. A  new tax credit  would be add  a new                                                                   
tax  credit of  up  to $6  million  a year  for  oil and  gas                                                                   
produced  in  this  area,  in addition  to  the  current  $12                                                                   
million dollar  credit. There is  no production in  this area                                                                   
currently. He  explained that  for up to  10 years  from when                                                                   
production  would started,  as long  as it  started no  later                                                                   
than May 1,  2016, a producer  could take a tax credit  of up                                                                   
to  $500,000  per  month  against   tax  liability  under  AS                                                                   
43.55.011 (e), which is the basic PPT.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz  added that the sunset  is either 2016 or  10 years                                                                   
from  when commercial  production starts  (in the  case of  a                                                                   
producer that doesn't currently  have production.) There is a                                                                   
potential 20 year period in which the credit could apply.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz noted that the amendment  also amends 43.55.011 (k)                                                                   
and  (l).  The amendment  exempts  Cook  Inlet oil  from  the                                                                   
requirement  that any  benefit a producer  receives  from the                                                                   
Cook Inlet  tax cap  be netted out  against tax credits  that                                                                   
would otherwise be applicable  to Cook Inlet oil and gas. The                                                                   
amendment  eliminates the  provisions as  they apply  to Cook                                                                   
Inlet oil.  The requirement  would only  apply to Cook  Inlet                                                                   
gas.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
5:21:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  DICKINSON,  CONSULTANT,   TAX  DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
REVENUE,  created  a  portrait  of  the  four  regions  being                                                                   
created. The  first would be North  Slope oil and  gas, which                                                                   
accounts for  90 percent of the  oil and gas  production, and                                                                   
97 percent of the tax. The 20/20  PPT will apply to the North                                                                   
Slope,  credits  will  be  generated and  there  will  be  no                                                                   
restrictions on where they can  be used. There are no special                                                                   
restrictions   for  this  portion,   which  constitutes   the                                                                   
majority.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dickinson observed that both  oil and gas in an area that                                                                   
doesn't fall within  the other three regimes  was referred to                                                                   
as everywhere  else. This covers  Bristol Bay and  the Nenana                                                                   
Basin  and other  places  that are  prospective  but have  no                                                                   
current  production.   There is  currently  no production  or                                                                   
taxes  in  this area.  The  20/20  PPT  would apply  and  all                                                                   
credits generated  could be  used against current  production                                                                   
anywhere in  the state. There  is an additional credit  of up                                                                   
to  $6  million  a  year,  which  could  be  applied  against                                                                   
production that comes from this area.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Dickinson  noted that the  next area would be  Cook Inlet                                                                   
oil,  which  constitutes  less  than  two  percent  of  total                                                                   
production in Alaska  and zero percent of the  production tax                                                                   
because there is  zero tax on Cook Inlet currently  under the                                                                   
economic limit  factor (ELF). There  is a look back  to prior                                                                   
taxes. Cook Inlet  oil would be taxed at the PPT  rate or the                                                                   
previous  year's  tax  rate  whichever   is  less.  With  the                                                                   
production tax  now zero there will  be no PPT on  Cook Inlet                                                                   
oil. Credits can still be generated  and applied elsewhere in                                                                   
Alaska.  Ways of  parsing out  oil and  gas will  need to  be                                                                   
generated through  regulation. He noted that  the costs would                                                                   
have to be "somewhat arbitrarily" divided up.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Dickinson observed  that the  last arena  is Cook  Inlet                                                                   
gas. The  PPT base would be  compared to a baseline  of taxes                                                                   
being currently  paid or  paid for  the past  year to  form a                                                                   
cap.  Credits generated  from  Cook Inlet  investments  would                                                                   
first be  applied against the  cap created. He  observed that                                                                   
if there  were a tax liability  under the PPT $5  million and                                                                   
there  was a  look back  tax liability  of  $3 million  there                                                                   
would  be  a  $2 million  difference  applied  if  credit  is                                                                   
available. Credits  must be used within other  Cook Inlet gas                                                                   
arenas to the degree  that they are limited. "IF  in fact you                                                                   
had a credit  you could have  used without the cap,  that can                                                                   
be  used  across the  state  in  any  area." Cook  Inlet  gas                                                                   
constitutes about  eight percent  of the total  production in                                                                   
Alaska and about  three percent of current  production taxes:                                                                   
$35 million annually.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:26:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Holms  asked  if  there  limitations  on  the                                                                   
"everywhere else"  portion. He questioned if  there should be                                                                   
a sunset of 10  or 20 years. Mr. Dickinson  observed that any                                                                   
limitation  that would  apply under  33.55.170 also  applies.                                                                   
There is a sunset  provision. There is a 10-year  window. The                                                                   
only additional  restriction is that credits  would expire at                                                                   
the end of the year and are not transferable or sellable.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
5:27:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
In  response  to  a question  by  Representative  Kelly,  Mr.                                                                   
Dickinson  clarified that if  the discovery  was made  on the                                                                   
last day  of the 10-year period,  the credit would  apply for                                                                   
the following 10 years (allowing for a 20 year period).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:28:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker WITHDREW  his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, Amendment 6 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Chenault MOVED to ADOPT  Amendment 7. Representative                                                                   
Hawker OBJECTED for the purpose of discussion.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
5:28:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz  explained Amendment 7,  which would fix  some gaps                                                                   
in  the  current legislation.  The  amendment  addresses  the                                                                   
progressivity tax on page 4 of  the legislation: AS 43.55.011                                                                   
(g) and (h). He observed that  these provisions could open up                                                                   
a potential for  manipulation of timing by allowing  costs to                                                                   
be  moved  between   months.  The  amendment   requires  that                                                                   
annualized  costs be used  for the  year (one-twelfth  of the                                                                   
annual  cost  each month).    The  same timing  problem  cost                                                                   
pertains  to both the  upstream lease  expenditure costs  and                                                                   
downstream transportation costs.  The amendment requires that                                                                   
when  the  gross  value  of  oil and  gas  at  the  point  of                                                                   
production is calculated, the  gross value is calculation for                                                                   
the transportation  costs are  done with the monthly  average                                                                   
of the transportation costs.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz referred to page 27,  which requires the department                                                                   
to adopt regulations to provide  for the monthly averaging of                                                                   
transportation costs.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5:31:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz observed that the amendment also addresses a                                                                          
mathematical error on page 13, transitional investment                                                                          
expenditure credits. The 2-for-l  principle was adopted for                                                                     
credits for transitional investments (look back provision),                                                                     
which allows for credit over time  for capital investments in                                                                   
oil and gas that were made during the five years before the                                                                     
new tax region goes into effect. The 2-for-l look-back                                                                          
provision would require a producer  to make $2 dollars of new                                                                   
investment for every $1 credit. The current language would                                                                      
have allowed five times the credit rate intended by the 2-                                                                      
for-l look-back principle. He explained the mechanism that                                                                      
would allow the $2 for $1 provision on line 10, page 13.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
5:33:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz  observed that amendment  addresses the  tax return                                                                   
filing requirement and fixes an  ambiguity in how the statute                                                                   
of limitations for  tax assessments would work  under the new                                                                   
tax regime.  The ambiguity  arrises because  every month  oil                                                                   
and gas is produced  gives rise to an obligation  to file two                                                                   
tax  returns:  the  monthly  tax   return  triggered  by  the                                                                   
obligation to  pay at least 95  percent of the tax  levied by                                                                   
the  PPT provision  and "true  up"  provision required  March                                                                   
  st                                                                                                                            
31,   which  is  triggered  by  the  obligation  to  pay  the                                                                   
remaining 5 percent of the tax.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
5:35:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mintz explained  that  there would  be  two tax  filings                                                                   
required.  The   statute  of  limitations  states   that  the                                                                   
Department  of Revenue  has three  years  from a  date a  tax                                                                   
return  is   filed  to  issue   an  assessment  of   the  tax                                                                   
                                                            st                                                                  
deficiency. The  amendment clarifications that  the March 31                                                                    
date triggers the three year statute of limitation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
5:35:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Mintz referred to page 22,  line 11, which provides for a                                                                   
complete parallel construction  of the language. He explained                                                                   
that  when  "ordinary   and  necessary"  was   moved  to  the                                                                   
definition  of lease  expenditures, it  highlighted the  fact                                                                   
that there are  two types of situations being  addressed. The                                                                   
first is  exploration,  developing or  production oil  or gas                                                                   
lease  or  properties.  The second  is  when  exploration  is                                                                   
occurring on  un-leased land. The  intent is to  have totally                                                                   
parallel  construction  to  clarify   that  all  of  the  key                                                                   
elements of "lease expenditures" apply to both situations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:36:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Mintz explained  that the  final  portion requires  that                                                                   
year annualized  transportation costs be used  in calculating                                                                   
production   tax  value   when  the   progressivity  tax   is                                                                   
triggered.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
5:37:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker WITHDREW his OBJECTION. There being NO                                                                    
OBJECTION, Amendment 7 was adopted.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster MOVED  to report  HCS CSSB 2001  (FIN)                                                                   
out  of Committee  with the  accompanying  fiscal notes.  HCS                                                                   
CSSB 2001  (FIN) was  REPORTED  out of Committee  with  a "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation  and with  a new  fiscal impact  note by                                                                   
the  Department  of Revenue  and  previously  published  zero                                                                   
fiscal note: #1 REV.                                                                                                            
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 5:40 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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